A conversation between a liberal male talk show host (H) and a female guest (G).
H: So, Trump won the election (Audience boos). Now, we can expect to actually happen what we feared would possibly happen. He’ll impose his Fascism.
G: Why didn’t he do it when he was in office? He cut regulations, freed us from economy-stifling treaties that benefitted foreign powers, unleashed energy production, and made the country energy independent in a thriving economy that provided more minority jobs, especially jobs for African Americans and Hispanics; he oversaw an economy with a very low inflation rate and he cut taxes that actually helped the Middle Class in spite of the claims that the cuts were only for the rich. (Audience boos) Wait! Wait! The bord…(the G waits for the noise to subside while the H smirks in approval of the audience’s response) The border… the border was more secure under Trump.
H: Sure, because he put kids in cages and separated children from parents… (Audience claps and laughs in agreement)
G: You mean the photo taken during the Obama Administration? That was your guy Obama, not Trump. You liberals remind me of Arthur Conan Doyle’s gullibility.
H: Whhhhat? (H shakes his head)
G: Doyle, the creator of Sherlock Holmes, was fooled by a photo of fairies that supposedly appeared in the woods. We recognize the photo was a fake, but it was early days for photos, so few understood a doctored picture, what we would call photoshopped. It was by our standards a crude fake, but it worked then just as the photo of the Obamas cages worked. And in addition to the Obama cages labeled Trump cages, there was the photo of border agents on horseback using their reins to direct their horses that you libs said were used to beat border crossers. I guess you’ll believe anything that confirms your beliefs.
H: He wants to deport your gardener (Audience laughs)
G: Wow! Talk about stereotyping a race! If I said that, your audience would have booed. But let’s get real here. I suppose you don’t care about a young woman like Laken Riley or about the other women—and girls— who were abused by illegal criminals.
H: Well, we have criminals like that among our legal citizens.
G: That’s your argument? That’s your logic to justify your attitude about illegal criminal activities? That because there are criminals with citizenship, the crimes committed by noncitizens are dismissible as “things that already happen”? Do you have any children?
H: Yes.
G: Any daughters?
H: Two.
G: Which one of them do you want raped and murdered? (Audience uncomfortably boos in a subdued manner; some squirm)
H: I don’t…
G: Too real for you? Too close to home? I’ll pose the question again: Which one of your daughters?
H: But that could happen with a citizen criminal…
G: That’s true, but if an illegal criminal is kept from entering the country, he poses no threat. You pretend to be a compassionate liberal; you pretend that the rapes of little girls by cartel members and the sex trafficking of females by cartels and foreign gangs don’t occur. They do, but you refuse to accept that reality, a reality you would accept if it had been your daughter instead of the Riley family’s. Where’s that so called liberal compassion? Where’s that assumed superior intelligence of liberals? You fail to deal with what is real to so many victims.
H: Well (a bit dumbfounded) maybe it does occur, maybe there are a few… but the incidents are rare. (Audience claps lightly)
G: Again, the problem with you libs is that you see things Platonically.
H: Huh!?
G: Do the Riley family members and other victims of illegal criminals think the rapes and deaths are “rare”? Would you think the murder of your daughter is “a rare incident”? The problem with liberals is that they live as though there’s an achievable “ideal” that will override the “real.” Those crimes by illegals were preventable by excluding them from the American society. Your guy let them in. Your guy let unvetted people in by the millions. Your guy gave them free food, transportation, education, healthcare, and housing. Your guy put your daughters’ potential rapists in your neighborhood. Well, not your privileged daughter. Not in your gated neighborhood that your willing audience paid for. (Audience gasps in the realization that not only they could not afford to live in his neighborhood of expensive homes, but also that they could not even gain entry to his street. And then the thought hits them that his wealth was their wealth willingly transferred so that they could watch his shows)
H: Don’t conservatives also have ideals? Don’t you want an all-white society composed of evangelicals and private schools?
G: I’ll grant that I should’t have suggested that all liberals focus on unreal ideals. But the arguments for mass illegal migration are based on ideals and statements like “We’re a nation of immigrants.” Sure, we are. But if you want to say America’s border policies are outdated and that we should let in anyone who wants entry, you might also take into consideration the nature of the modern world, the one run by cartels and brutal gangs. Is it xenophobia to want a filter? Is it xenophobia to deport people demonstrably dangerous to the population? People on the terrorist watchlist have been caught. How many haven’t been caught? Why not put the question to each member of your audience that so eagerly waits for some gotcha question so they can mock and laugh. Go ahead, call up a random member of the audience, say a female. Ask her if being raped by an illegal is okay? Ask her whether or not after being raped, she will still think it’s okay to allow unvetted illegals by the millions into the country. Ask her if she wants her neighborhood to house hundreds of unvetted illegals one of who is a convicted murderer or rapist. Ask her if she would dismiss the rapes and deaths of American women as “well, we have citizen rapists and murderers.” (Audience has mixed reaction; some boo; some look guilty)
H: You’re still ignoring the fact that your guy wants to deport all the innocent aliens who have come into the country just to seek a better life. They aren’t criminals.
G: When they illegally crossed the border…
H: Oh! Come on now. Little kids brought into the country by their mothers? That’s just plain heartless. You wouldn’t have deportations of the innocent under a liberal administration.
G: You have a very short memory.
H: Me? Why?
G: Remember Elián González Brotons? After his mother died at sea as they were fleeing Cuba and he was rescued, the boy was taken to his uncle’s house. Then the Cuban father wanted him back. Okay, seems reasonable, but your guy Obama and his AG sent in lethally armed agents dressed in combat gear with guns raised to take the boy from the arms of his uncle. That picture of their fright is hard to forget. The kid was deported. And yes, he’s now a Cuban politician, an educated one, but the point is that Obama, your liberal compassionate guy, frighted a little kid and his loving uncle with an armed force, and deported him. And I’ll restate: those so called cages were Obama’s.
H: Obama returned him to his father.
G: The same guy that the mother fled from by taking a dangerous journey.
H: Well, I can see we’re not going to agree. You’ll see how that Fascist President handles the border. (Audience claps)
G: It’s not agreement I seek, it’s education. I want you to understand that your condemnation of Trump as a Fascist ignores the actual Fascist policies of Biden who by fiat determined that US laws regarding the border and immigration weren’t in the best interest of the Democrat party, a party that believes more immigrants will solidify their control by adding to voter rolls people who will vote for them as a consequence of getting free stuff. I want you to see that a government actually colluding with private entities to quash dissent is Fascism. And as for immigrants, the recent election shows that the immigrants of the last half century, the ones who fled Fascist/Socialist/Communist countries like Cuba and who established free and capitalist roots in America have become more aligned with conservative views.
H: You’ll see that Trump’s a fascist who will take away your rights (Audience doesn’t respond)
G: When they consider your repeated claim without evidence other than your talking points, your audience seems to understand. But don’t worry. They won’t abandon you just as inner city voters suffering a half century of degradation, crime, and addiction haven’t abandoned their Democrat officials. But look around here in New York City. Your sanctuary city has spent five billion dollars on illegals. You’ve seen an increase in crime, and you’ve seen hotels trashed, schools overcrowded, and kids exposed to foreign drug dealers. But you hold onto your ideal perspective. Bet your kids go to a private school (Audience squirms) Is your family too good to attend a public school? You want to prove you’re for the immigrants? Send your kid into one of the overcrowded schools. Hey, they’ll pick up a foreign language, could be any foreign language, maybe even Mandarin, Telegu, or Spanish, Urdu, or Arabic.
H: (Turns to camera) Tomorrow night we have the entire cast of The View. (Audience claps)
Show cuts to commercial and ends.
H: So, Trump won the election (Audience boos). Now, we can expect to actually happen what we feared would possibly happen. He’ll impose his Fascism.
G: Why didn’t he do it when he was in office? He cut regulations, freed us from economy-stifling treaties that benefitted foreign powers, unleashed energy production, and made the country energy independent in a thriving economy that provided more minority jobs, especially jobs for African Americans and Hispanics; he oversaw an economy with a very low inflation rate and he cut taxes that actually helped the Middle Class in spite of the claims that the cuts were only for the rich. (Audience boos) Wait! Wait! The bord…(the G waits for the noise to subside while the H smirks in approval of the audience’s response) The border… the border was more secure under Trump.
H: Sure, because he put kids in cages and separated children from parents… (Audience claps and laughs in agreement)
G: You mean the photo taken during the Obama Administration? That was your guy Obama, not Trump. You liberals remind me of Arthur Conan Doyle’s gullibility.
H: Whhhhat? (H shakes his head)
G: Doyle, the creator of Sherlock Holmes, was fooled by a photo of fairies that supposedly appeared in the woods. We recognize the photo was a fake, but it was early days for photos, so few understood a doctored picture, what we would call photoshopped. It was by our standards a crude fake, but it worked then just as the photo of the Obamas cages worked. And in addition to the Obama cages labeled Trump cages, there was the photo of border agents on horseback using their reins to direct their horses that you libs said were used to beat border crossers. I guess you’ll believe anything that confirms your beliefs.
H: He wants to deport your gardener (Audience laughs)
G: Wow! Talk about stereotyping a race! If I said that, your audience would have booed. But let’s get real here. I suppose you don’t care about a young woman like Laken Riley or about the other women—and girls— who were abused by illegal criminals.
H: Well, we have criminals like that among our legal citizens.
G: That’s your argument? That’s your logic to justify your attitude about illegal criminal activities? That because there are criminals with citizenship, the crimes committed by noncitizens are dismissible as “things that already happen”? Do you have any children?
H: Yes.
G: Any daughters?
H: Two.
G: Which one of them do you want raped and murdered? (Audience uncomfortably boos in a subdued manner; some squirm)
H: I don’t…
G: Too real for you? Too close to home? I’ll pose the question again: Which one of your daughters?
H: But that could happen with a citizen criminal…
G: That’s true, but if an illegal criminal is kept from entering the country, he poses no threat. You pretend to be a compassionate liberal; you pretend that the rapes of little girls by cartel members and the sex trafficking of females by cartels and foreign gangs don’t occur. They do, but you refuse to accept that reality, a reality you would accept if it had been your daughter instead of the Riley family’s. Where’s that so called liberal compassion? Where’s that assumed superior intelligence of liberals? You fail to deal with what is real to so many victims.
H: Well (a bit dumbfounded) maybe it does occur, maybe there are a few… but the incidents are rare. (Audience claps lightly)
G: Again, the problem with you libs is that you see things Platonically.
H: Huh!?
G: Do the Riley family members and other victims of illegal criminals think the rapes and deaths are “rare”? Would you think the murder of your daughter is “a rare incident”? The problem with liberals is that they live as though there’s an achievable “ideal” that will override the “real.” Those crimes by illegals were preventable by excluding them from the American society. Your guy let them in. Your guy let unvetted people in by the millions. Your guy gave them free food, transportation, education, healthcare, and housing. Your guy put your daughters’ potential rapists in your neighborhood. Well, not your privileged daughter. Not in your gated neighborhood that your willing audience paid for. (Audience gasps in the realization that not only they could not afford to live in his neighborhood of expensive homes, but also that they could not even gain entry to his street. And then the thought hits them that his wealth was their wealth willingly transferred so that they could watch his shows)
H: Don’t conservatives also have ideals? Don’t you want an all-white society composed of evangelicals and private schools?
G: I’ll grant that I should’t have suggested that all liberals focus on unreal ideals. But the arguments for mass illegal migration are based on ideals and statements like “We’re a nation of immigrants.” Sure, we are. But if you want to say America’s border policies are outdated and that we should let in anyone who wants entry, you might also take into consideration the nature of the modern world, the one run by cartels and brutal gangs. Is it xenophobia to want a filter? Is it xenophobia to deport people demonstrably dangerous to the population? People on the terrorist watchlist have been caught. How many haven’t been caught? Why not put the question to each member of your audience that so eagerly waits for some gotcha question so they can mock and laugh. Go ahead, call up a random member of the audience, say a female. Ask her if being raped by an illegal is okay? Ask her whether or not after being raped, she will still think it’s okay to allow unvetted illegals by the millions into the country. Ask her if she wants her neighborhood to house hundreds of unvetted illegals one of who is a convicted murderer or rapist. Ask her if she would dismiss the rapes and deaths of American women as “well, we have citizen rapists and murderers.” (Audience has mixed reaction; some boo; some look guilty)
H: You’re still ignoring the fact that your guy wants to deport all the innocent aliens who have come into the country just to seek a better life. They aren’t criminals.
G: When they illegally crossed the border…
H: Oh! Come on now. Little kids brought into the country by their mothers? That’s just plain heartless. You wouldn’t have deportations of the innocent under a liberal administration.
G: You have a very short memory.
H: Me? Why?
G: Remember Elián González Brotons? After his mother died at sea as they were fleeing Cuba and he was rescued, the boy was taken to his uncle’s house. Then the Cuban father wanted him back. Okay, seems reasonable, but your guy Obama and his AG sent in lethally armed agents dressed in combat gear with guns raised to take the boy from the arms of his uncle. That picture of their fright is hard to forget. The kid was deported. And yes, he’s now a Cuban politician, an educated one, but the point is that Obama, your liberal compassionate guy, frighted a little kid and his loving uncle with an armed force, and deported him. And I’ll restate: those so called cages were Obama’s.
H: Obama returned him to his father.
G: The same guy that the mother fled from by taking a dangerous journey.
H: Well, I can see we’re not going to agree. You’ll see how that Fascist President handles the border. (Audience claps)
G: It’s not agreement I seek, it’s education. I want you to understand that your condemnation of Trump as a Fascist ignores the actual Fascist policies of Biden who by fiat determined that US laws regarding the border and immigration weren’t in the best interest of the Democrat party, a party that believes more immigrants will solidify their control by adding to voter rolls people who will vote for them as a consequence of getting free stuff. I want you to see that a government actually colluding with private entities to quash dissent is Fascism. And as for immigrants, the recent election shows that the immigrants of the last half century, the ones who fled Fascist/Socialist/Communist countries like Cuba and who established free and capitalist roots in America have become more aligned with conservative views.
H: You’ll see that Trump’s a fascist who will take away your rights (Audience doesn’t respond)
G: When they consider your repeated claim without evidence other than your talking points, your audience seems to understand. But don’t worry. They won’t abandon you just as inner city voters suffering a half century of degradation, crime, and addiction haven’t abandoned their Democrat officials. But look around here in New York City. Your sanctuary city has spent five billion dollars on illegals. You’ve seen an increase in crime, and you’ve seen hotels trashed, schools overcrowded, and kids exposed to foreign drug dealers. But you hold onto your ideal perspective. Bet your kids go to a private school (Audience squirms) Is your family too good to attend a public school? You want to prove you’re for the immigrants? Send your kid into one of the overcrowded schools. Hey, they’ll pick up a foreign language, could be any foreign language, maybe even Mandarin, Telegu, or Spanish, Urdu, or Arabic.
H: (Turns to camera) Tomorrow night we have the entire cast of The View. (Audience claps)
Show cuts to commercial and ends.
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